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that has the pedal to the metal. what you and i have talked about before repeatedly, $4 in taxes for every dollar in phantom spending cuts. that's fiscal irritation, but the health of corporate america will be what ultimately prevails. >> sounds like david has been reading your book, rick santelli. >> it does. >> big fan of rick. >> this is such a perverse world we live in, okay. let's look as what's happening. down 158 in stocks and that pushed the ten-year yield under 170, okay. >> really. let me get this straight. they can't get a deal on controlling out-of-control debt, so rates go down. i used to trade during graham/rudman and i remember when they couldn't get deficit conversations right, treasuries went down and stocks went down. oh, would i love to get back to that type of reality. >> yeah. but you had a different guy at the federal reserve at the time. >> yeah, a different guy, you know, in hindsight he was maybe the monetizer in charge -- in chief, and we get a little historical perspective on that, but as many things that i disagree with alan greenspan on, i thought he was at lea
aboutrd. now, the president campaigned on raising taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year. the bush era tax cuts will expire at the end of this year. obama was elected with a surplus of about 3 million votes. he won the election. he campaigned on this issue. again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented to him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself, but, again, i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house even the speaker can't tell what he's going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. mr. president, the house, we hear this so often, is controlled by the reap warnings and we acknowledge that. i would be most happy to move forward on something that senator mcconnell said they wouldn't filibuster over here that he would support and that boehner would support, if it were reasonable, but right now we haven't heard anything. i don't know, and it's none of my business, i guess, although i am very serious, if the speaker and th
what the tax rules are going to be and you don't know what the health of the consumer is going to be. getting this behind us is key. and i do think that equities would be able to have a solid year in 2013 once we get rid of some of this mess that we're in. >> what about ed's point to the fundamentals and the slowdown in earnings? >> well, we still are expecting earnings to rise next year. and again, i'm of the camp that so many investors are rarely pessimistic. many have been positioned negatively -- >> john -- john, i'm sorry to cut you off there but we've just got breaking news out of washington. let's get back to john harwood. >> i talked to an aide that said house gop caucus meeting is not principally about the fiscal cliff. it's mostly going to be about sandy relief money from the superstorm. the cliff will come up, but the source said we are not going over any potential deal because there isn't one and the senate hasn't acted yet. >> but even if they're intending to talk more about sandy relief, don't you think the fiscal cliff issue is going to kind of come up? >> of course it
parameters on tax and spending policy. >> is there anything that's immune to the fiscal cliff talk, anything you would buy right here? >> well, i would say, you know, first of all, i might push back a little bit. i think that the market has been a little bit complacent. i think the market believes that -- than common sense will prevail in this, and i -- i -- as i keep saying i believe that the calculus of congress is complex. it doesn't follow the normal accounting results, and so we just assumed that everything is going to be fine and in that sense we believe that the tail risks regarding the fiscal cliff have not really been fully priced in. we do believe there's risk here. if we can get past this, then clearly i think we've got a very positive environment given all the other good things that have been said over and above that, that if we go over the cliff, if there's a real possibility, then we'll see consumer incomes go down and like i said earnings expectations are likely to be revised lower, so what do we like fundamentally? >> pretty defensive areas in many cases there? >> i would say
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